Comments on: Lessons from the case of the man who set his underpants on fire http://www.papersplease.org/wp/2010/01/08/lessons-from-the-case-of-the-man-who-set-his-underpants-on-fire/ Challenging ID Demands Sat, 11 Feb 2012 18:58:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Papers, Please! » Blog Archive » “Fleshmob” against virtual strip-search machines at Berlin airport http://www.papersplease.org/wp/2010/01/08/lessons-from-the-case-of-the-man-who-set-his-underpants-on-fire/#comment-360096 Papers, Please! » Blog Archive » “Fleshmob” against virtual strip-search machines at Berlin airport Fri, 26 Aug 2011 00:05:39 +0000 http://www.papersplease.org/wp/?p=1164#comment-360096 [...] naked by “whole body imaging” machines or “body scanners”, and then groped to determine whether what they see under your underwear is a padded bra, a mastectomy prosthesis, a menstrual pad, an adult diaper, … or plastic [...] [...] naked by “whole body imaging” machines or “body scanners”, and then groped to determine whether what they see under your underwear is a padded bra, a mastectomy prosthesis, a menstrual pad, an adult diaper, … or plastic [...]

]]> By: Consumer Travel Alliance » TSA’s nose grows as they explain whole-body scanners http://www.papersplease.org/wp/2010/01/08/lessons-from-the-case-of-the-man-who-set-his-underpants-on-fire/#comment-120361 Consumer Travel Alliance » TSA’s nose grows as they explain whole-body scanners Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:36:52 +0000 http://www.papersplease.org/wp/?p=1164#comment-120361 [...] way way, compared to having to carry out an attack over a network.) That just reconfirms that the TSA’s threat model is grossly deficient and that they aren’t really even trying to rein in the temptations (can you say, “naked [...] [...] way way, compared to having to carry out an attack over a network.) That just reconfirms that the TSA’s threat model is grossly deficient and that they aren’t really even trying to rein in the temptations (can you say, “naked [...]

]]> By: Jack http://www.papersplease.org/wp/2010/01/08/lessons-from-the-case-of-the-man-who-set-his-underpants-on-fire/#comment-120262 Jack Wed, 13 Jan 2010 19:27:38 +0000 http://www.papersplease.org/wp/?p=1164#comment-120262 Are there ANY airports, in the USA, (having scheduled service) which would allow this type of demonstration? I doubt it! In a major US airport these people would probably be "tazed;" cuffed, and booked as "terrorists." Did anyone notice the Berlin cop standing directly next to one of the protestors? This is, also, a good commentary on the oppressive legacy our Puritan heritage has left us. Are there ANY airports, in the USA, (having scheduled service) which would allow this type of demonstration? I doubt it! In a major US airport these people would probably be “tazed;” cuffed, and booked as “terrorists.” Did anyone notice the Berlin cop standing directly next to one of the protestors? This is, also, a good commentary on the oppressive legacy our Puritan heritage has left us.

]]> By: Honestthought http://www.papersplease.org/wp/2010/01/08/lessons-from-the-case-of-the-man-who-set-his-underpants-on-fire/#comment-120018 Honestthought Mon, 11 Jan 2010 14:57:14 +0000 http://www.papersplease.org/wp/?p=1164#comment-120018 Please! You insult the honorable on flight 93 over Pennsyvania, and who knows what really happened on the other flights on 9/11 If you object to the safety of others because of your own rather disturbing views of the role of safety officers, then don't travel. It seems you don't give a damn if others may get hurt or perish. And, what about the survivng widows and children, or parents. Their lives held in limbo until the remains are positiviley identified... And, we still don't have all the truth on TWA flight 800. Please! You insult the honorable on flight 93 over Pennsyvania, and who knows what really happened on the other flights on 9/11 If you object to the safety of others because of your own rather disturbing views of the role of safety officers, then don’t travel. It seems you don’t give a damn if others may get hurt or perish. And, what about the survivng widows and children, or parents. Their lives held in limbo until the remains are positiviley identified… And, we still don’t have all the truth on TWA flight 800.

]]> By: Angela http://www.papersplease.org/wp/2010/01/08/lessons-from-the-case-of-the-man-who-set-his-underpants-on-fire/#comment-119837 Angela Sun, 10 Jan 2010 09:04:16 +0000 http://www.papersplease.org/wp/?p=1164#comment-119837 Of all comments and analysis I've read on the TSA reaction on the would-be underpants "attack" this is by far the most complete and well-thought. I've been wondering a lot about this attack and there are a few things I don't understand... Maybe it's stupid, but if a terrorist really wants to cause a massacre, why does he get on a plane where there is a very high possibility to be caught, instead of doing it just at the airport? Do they *want* to get caught?? I think there is still much work to do and some more in-depth investigations to carry out. Of all comments and analysis I’ve read on the TSA reaction on the would-be underpants “attack” this is by far the most complete and well-thought.

I’ve been wondering a lot about this attack and there are a few things I don’t understand… Maybe it’s stupid, but if a terrorist really wants to cause a massacre, why does he get on a plane where there is a very high possibility to be caught, instead of doing it just at the airport? Do they *want* to get caught??

I think there is still much work to do and some more in-depth investigations to carry out.

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