http://www.papersplease.org/wp/2009/05/16/air-france-passenger-data-and-no-fly-orders/ Challenging ID Demands Thu, 18 Mar 2010 02:09:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 http://www.papersplease.org/wp/2009/05/16/air-france-passenger-data-and-no-fly-orders/#comment-103384 Homeland Security | Dedicated Traveler Tue, 23 Jun 2009 01:59:48 +0000 http://www.papersplease.org/wp/?p=598#comment-103384 [...] Air France aircraft had to make a lengthy diversion around US airspace, hence the refuelling stop. Click here for more on this story, including the interesting question of what the US might do if Cuba [...] [...] Air France aircraft had to make a lengthy diversion around US airspace, hence the refuelling stop. Click here for more on this story, including the interesting question of what the US might do if Cuba [...]

]]> http://www.papersplease.org/wp/2009/05/16/air-france-passenger-data-and-no-fly-orders/#comment-101561 swissdiary.com Tue, 02 Jun 2009 18:00:47 +0000 http://www.papersplease.org/wp/?p=598#comment-101561 [...] Air France aircraft had to make a lengthy diversion around US airspace, hence the refuelling stop. Click here for more on this story, including the interesting question of what the US might do if Cuba [...] [...] Air France aircraft had to make a lengthy diversion around US airspace, hence the refuelling stop. Click here for more on this story, including the interesting question of what the US might do if Cuba [...]

]]> http://www.papersplease.org/wp/2009/05/16/air-france-passenger-data-and-no-fly-orders/#comment-101556 Homeland Security - Media Releases - TravelSpotz Tue, 02 Jun 2009 17:05:11 +0000 http://www.papersplease.org/wp/?p=598#comment-101556 [...] Air France aircraft had to make a lengthy diversion around US airspace, hence the refuelling stop. Click here for more on this story, including the interesting question of what the US might do if Cuba [...] [...] Air France aircraft had to make a lengthy diversion around US airspace, hence the refuelling stop. Click here for more on this story, including the interesting question of what the US might do if Cuba [...]

]]> http://www.papersplease.org/wp/2009/05/16/air-france-passenger-data-and-no-fly-orders/#comment-99525 Papers, Please! » Blog Archive » GAO moves the goalposts to “approve” Secure Flight Tue, 19 May 2009 01:50:10 +0000 http://www.papersplease.org/wp/?p=598#comment-99525 [...] serious, category of false positive identifications of passengers as dangerous resulting from watchlistings of people who are not, in fact, dangerous. Matching names on lists of passengers to names on watchlists is the easy part. But that’s [...] [...] serious, category of false positive identifications of passengers as dangerous resulting from watchlistings of people who are not, in fact, dangerous. Matching names on lists of passengers to names on watchlists is the easy part. But that’s [...]

]]> http://www.papersplease.org/wp/2009/05/16/air-france-passenger-data-and-no-fly-orders/#comment-99500 Archie1954 Mon, 18 May 2009 21:00:09 +0000 http://www.papersplease.org/wp/?p=598#comment-99500 I believe most international airline rules are tit for tat. In other words if the US doesn't allow a foreign carrier to overfly its territory then that airline's host country retaliates with American flights being prevented from overflying their territory. It's done for a reason of course and that is to make it too difficult or too expensive for countries to get away with such egregious behaviour. Obviously Americans in their typical arrogant manner have been getting away with this kind of disruptive and foolish behaviour for much too long. Let them start to pay for their breaking of international treaties. I believe most international airline rules are tit for tat. In other words if the US doesn’t allow a foreign carrier to overfly its territory then that airline’s host country retaliates with American flights being prevented from overflying their territory. It’s done for a reason of course and that is to make it too difficult or too expensive for countries to get away with such egregious behaviour. Obviously Americans in their typical arrogant manner have been getting away with this kind of disruptive and foolish behaviour for much too long. Let them start to pay for their breaking of international treaties.

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